1 Megawatt Fuel Cell Power Plant

Each house should have a mini hydrogen power plant that electrolyzes water using solar or wind – so that it is self-sufficient. Who the fuck needs a grid?

Can the fuel cell be powered by hydrogen from biomass gasifier?

@sspiega I would recommend stirling generator engine to be powered by waste heat.

Why can't they take the 700 degree air, pass it through that same heat exchanger and heat water to boiling and create steam to turn a turbine and create even more energy?

@BlackDogSociety As for biofuels, it remains very costly. Ethanol production yields disappointing results. Bio oils are too thick.
One thing that might be interesting is biodiesels and cars equiped with diesel engines. If only people would become less obsessed with horsepower….
Why is that arrogant cocky VW company the only one producing them… expensive too.

@BlackDogSociety You don't exactly have a whole lot of credibility when making claims. The whole HHO perpetual motion and wacky unsubstantiated crap that was flying around our ears didn't exactly place you in the scientific corner…
I can see right away on that website you just quoted: "I believe that water will one day be employed as fuel…" rriigghhtt, that's pretty wacky. We all know water can not be a fuel.

@a1mint — I can agree that the distribution losses may not be that big of deal, especially considering that system is already in place, but any reduction in losses would be a good thing. As far as using a bio-fuel source I was thinking of the water gas shift and Fischer-Tropsch methods of syngas reformation as a fuel source for these cells. visit verdereformation com… The costs associated here would be less than using fossil fuels…

@BlackDogSociety Wikipedia, Electric_power_transmission
"Transmission and distribution losses in the USA were estimated at 7.2% in 1995"

I realize now how low that was. Things have probably even improved since then too.

@BlackDogSociety Transmission lines use higher voltages to reduce the amount of wastage. But sure, there is a loss. Do you know what the numbers are. Is there a percentage number that you're aware of?
Biofuels are too costly. Especially the ones suitable for fuel cells.

@a1mint — Do you realize how much energy is wasted in those transmission lines? No it makes more sense for people to make the energy they need at their own homes, or at least small community based facilities. Also the power could be made from renewable sources like biofuels…

It would make more sense to produce the electricity at a central power plant and distribute it through wires.

The only reason these types of products, just like the Bloom Box, are currently making business sense, is because elecricity produced from fossil fuels is less costly than buying electricity from the grid.

And that works well in California, because deregulation tripled the price of electricity.

What a mess.

Shave and cut your hair!

The CO2 that comes out of this is pretty pure, not random other stuff with it. Which makes it VERY easy to sequester/get rid of. Coal plants have mostly other stuff as an output, with CO2 mixed in there liberally, making it much more difficult.

WTF I want one for MY home

i guess when Oklahoma gas and electric said they canceled all new gas fired and coal plants they meant it.

still need to get the H2 from some were and that means ether water or oil
and with Fusion who cares how much you lose

then every fart can be sold.

talk about shitting your money away, large power plants loose 30 percent just in transmission losses. Put a fuel cell in my house please.

Fuelcells are great for small scale but on a large scale we need Natural Gas in the short term followed by more Fission nuclear power mid term and Fusion power long term
any thing else is just throwing away money

Interesting energy, I hear its really volotile though……

have they thought about insulating the heat exhaust piping to retain more heat for recovery?

Global warming is fake you sheep!!!! LOL the temperature of the earth has not increased since 1997…actauly fact from research not made up shit from east anglia…

There's a problem with this. Natural gas is methane, CH4; one carbon atom and 4 hydrogen atoms. A hydrogen molecule is 2 hydrogen atoms, so you get 2 molecules of hydrogen from one molecule of methane. The only problem is the carbon atom. Guess what? The carbon atom combines with an oxygen atom (O2) from the air to produce CO2. You get the same amount of emissions as if you burned it. You recover more of the energy in the methane than if i was burned, but fuel cells make it extremely expensive.

when it comes to renewable energy, we're basicly all screwed. all energy comes from the sun, whether solar or wind (caused by uneven heating of the earth). we can't build enough windmills and solar plants to support such a large population. even with biofuels, geothermal and hydroelectric (which i guess isn't from the sun, but still not plentious enough) it's all a drop in the bucket. we've over expanded on fossil fuels, eventualy, there's nothing we can do. ppl will have to die off.

his voice soo doesn't match his body