Comments on: HHO DIY Plans to Run Car on Hydrogen – HHO Conversion – How to Convert Auto Instructions

By: screwbushcomegetme

screwbushcomegetme — Sat, 19 Jun 2010 19:46:03 +0000

yes very good anyone can create a bubbler/hho converter. running this cheesy little bubbler yields higher mpg output than without one. as for messing with the fuel ratio yes it does decrease the amount of fuel injected and the hydrogen actually causes the fuel to burn more fully thus yielding higher fuel mileage and at the same time cleaner emissions. and it does tap into wasted energy thats why everyone gets higher mpg with them. remember this topic is about a small hho unit in a car.

By: proaudiohd

proaudiohd — Sat, 19 Jun 2010 19:46:03 +0000

Yes anyone could rig up a little bubbler. That's not my point. My point is, you could never run the car on that system by itself, you need to supplement with some other source of energy. And you'd be better off NOT trying to make more hydrogen on board because it takes energy away from the car, instead of adding it. You're not tapping into any hidden or wasted energy, you're screwing with the car's fuel/air ratio. You can run a car leaner for better economy but it increases emissions.

By: screwbushcomegetme

screwbushcomegetme — Sat, 19 Jun 2010 19:46:03 +0000

i did do a lot of research on these before i built my own convertor dont remember the exact numbers but the converter initially will draw a little load when charging but it tapers off. the alternator always puts out a 12.5 volt charge in almost every car i dont know the amps but the unit uses like less than an amp when charged or less i read it was less but anyway it works ill post a plan up for anyone interested its simple even pro could build it. its a cool project to tinker with &works.

By: screwbushcomegetme

screwbushcomegetme — Sat, 19 Jun 2010 19:46:03 +0000

for other people when you get 40 more miles out of a tank of gas or even more then it doesnt really matter what energy your wasting because overall its simply more efficient who cares what drain is put on the motor from the alternator.if you get more mpg then something is more efficent.
pro your a liberal arguing about hho because you dont like the fact that it works. you probably have a little science background & are pissed cause u r wrong just admit but i agree dont buy a kit from here.

By: proaudiohd

proaudiohd — Sat, 19 Jun 2010 19:46:03 +0000

Just because you measure a voltage doesn't mean the alternator is putting out its full amperage. You can't even put together a sentence, let alone make a good argument. You don't know a thing about my political views, about alternators, electricity, net energy, or how many gallons are in a tank. I'm just about done talking to you..cant wait to see your brilliant response.

By: screwbushcomegetme

screwbushcomegetme — Sat, 19 Jun 2010 19:46:03 +0000

you are wrong its always putting out a charge all you need is a voltmeter to check your own car and you will prove yourself wrong. when a person installs a cheap coverter and improves their mileage by 40 gallons a tank or more it is an improvement how can you argue that improving your mpg is wasting energy? i think your just trying to pull classical liberal garbage and its not polluting the environment it helps burn more fuel creating less pollution and greater mpg. forget your alternator. duh

By: proaudiohd

proaudiohd — Sat, 19 Jun 2010 19:46:03 +0000

WTF man.. The alternator is not sitting there drawing full power all the time and wasting it. It only supplies the current you ask for. If most of your accessories are off, its not pulling very hard. When you turn on all kinds of stuff and draw more current, the alternator responds by supplying more current, and that causes more drag on the engine. If you don't understand that basic fact, then you have no business giving advice about engines.

By: screwbushcomegetme

screwbushcomegetme — Sat, 19 Jun 2010 19:46:03 +0000

try watching the video its about greater fuel efficiency not running soley off of water. ive argued with stupid people from college studying thermodynamics engineering etc. theory is a principal to follow but in real application things come out differently. once again the fuel cell doesnt use any energy that isnt being wasted already thats why it yields greater efficiency. if you cant understand this then you know nothing about cars or your just stupid.

By: screwbushcomegetme

screwbushcomegetme — Sat, 19 Jun 2010 19:46:03 +0000

once again proaudio you prove yourself an ignorant the alternator always runs even if the battery is fully charged. no extra horsepower is used for electrolysis and the alternator always provides more than enough charge unless its bad. you cant disprove simple common sense you lose. simple electrolysis in a car wastes no energy at all its the ineficiency of all the belts and mechanics that cuase energy waste none is wasted in electrolysis it simply converts the wasted energy into energy.

By: proaudiohd

proaudiohd — Sat, 19 Jun 2010 19:46:03 +0000

It takes more energy to extract the hydrogen than you get from burning it. For every 1hp you draw at the alternator for electrolysis, about 0.2hp is returned at the crankshaft when you burn the resulting gases. That means the engine will very quickly stop unless there is some other power source, like gasoline. Show me one experiment that has an engine running solely off the electrolysis it is powering. Couldnt find one huh? Anyone selling plans to run your car on water is a con artist.

By: screwbushcomegetme

screwbushcomegetme — Sat, 19 Jun 2010 19:46:03 +0000

dude all you need is a sealed tube with some stainless steel plates dangled near the bottom of water. all the plates must be connected with insulators but have a + terminal on one side and a – terminal on the other connect it to a wire that is hot or has 12v going through it when the key is on . connect a line from the tube to run into the air intake but you need a water trap before the air intake to prevent explosion. it seems cheesy but the results are suprising. read about it this is basic

By: screwbushcomegetme

screwbushcomegetme — Sat, 19 Jun 2010 19:46:03 +0000

your a complete idiot and its exactly opposite of what you say. there are plans and complete articles on how to build one very simply. The secret is already out on this. Theres nothing you could ever do to stop it now. The only scam about this is if someone charges you for it, they are easy and chep to make. $45 will build a cheap kind of sloppy one.