Comments on: New 6 Cup HHO Fuel Cell "Flip Cup" http://www.hhogasstation.com/new-6-cup-hho-fuel-cell-flip-cup/169/ HHO conversion guides, HHO generators, HHO kits, parts and supplies. Sat, 11 Feb 2012 00:33:22 +0000 hourly 1 By: RisingSun350 http://www.hhogasstation.com/new-6-cup-hho-fuel-cell-flip-cup/169/#comment-487 RisingSun350 Fri, 09 Jan 2009 10:12:02 +0000 http://www.hhogasstation.com/new-6-cup-hho-fuel-cell-flip-cup/169/#comment-487 Its Oxygen/Hydrogen fumes...which also get HOT.... thats what melted my bubbler...I think I might have to build a Flash Back instead. Another good idea, really like where you are going with you cells. Great job. Its Oxygen/Hydrogen fumes…which also get HOT…. thats what melted my bubbler…I think I might have to build a Flash Back instead. Another good idea, really like where you are going with you cells. Great job.

]]> By: HHO4ALL http://www.hhogasstation.com/new-6-cup-hho-fuel-cell-flip-cup/169/#comment-488 HHO4ALL Fri, 09 Jan 2009 10:12:02 +0000 http://www.hhogasstation.com/new-6-cup-hho-fuel-cell-flip-cup/169/#comment-488 Looks like my 2 stage dryer worked, so now I'll have to record a video of how it works. Looks like my 2 stage dryer worked, so now I'll have to record a video of how it works.

]]> By: BigFireDave http://www.hhogasstation.com/new-6-cup-hho-fuel-cell-flip-cup/169/#comment-489 BigFireDave Fri, 09 Jan 2009 10:12:02 +0000 http://www.hhogasstation.com/new-6-cup-hho-fuel-cell-flip-cup/169/#comment-489 Well, I am not really sure, I have seen the KOH electrolite ested and it does a good job of creating toxic waste.I have also been told ALL electrolasis with stainless produces some so I will treat all solutions as hazardous. Even water, which is where I hope I am going, pure water. Right now I am working at low amperages (for now anyway) and have no problem with stainless wire. I understand stranded stainless cable is available and will look for it when needed. No lead solder, silver soldr only. Well, I am not really sure, I have seen the KOH electrolite ested and it does a good job of creating toxic waste.I have also been told ALL electrolasis with stainless produces some so I will treat all solutions as hazardous. Even water, which is where I hope I am going, pure water. Right now I am working at low amperages (for now anyway) and have no problem with stainless wire. I understand stranded stainless cable is available and will look for it when needed. No lead solder, silver soldr only.

]]> By: HHO4ALL http://www.hhogasstation.com/new-6-cup-hho-fuel-cell-flip-cup/169/#comment-490 HHO4ALL Fri, 09 Jan 2009 10:12:02 +0000 http://www.hhogasstation.com/new-6-cup-hho-fuel-cell-flip-cup/169/#comment-490 I am aware of the issue of water vapor. I've been working on a design of a 2 stage dryer method that should prevent any vapor from making it into the engine. I've already filled up 4 Water Bottles from the hose after my dryer, and placed them in the freezer. I should know by tomorrow morning if I still need to worry about the moisture issue. I am aware of the issue of water vapor.
I've been working on a design of a 2 stage dryer method that should prevent any vapor from making it into the engine.

I've already filled up 4 Water Bottles from the hose after my dryer, and placed them in the freezer. I should know by tomorrow morning if I still need to worry about the moisture issue.

]]> By: HHO4ALL http://www.hhogasstation.com/new-6-cup-hho-fuel-cell-flip-cup/169/#comment-491 HHO4ALL Fri, 09 Jan 2009 10:12:02 +0000 http://www.hhogasstation.com/new-6-cup-hho-fuel-cell-flip-cup/169/#comment-491 I have a 50 Gal drum that I pour everything into and it gets disposed of once a month. Is there less of a concern of chromium issues when using sodium hydroxide? If so, I bought a 2 lb. container that I will use instead. I also have 100 ft. of stainless wire that I could use, but I've noticed that it gets really hot, so maybe I will need to heatshrink a few pieces together until it is as thick as 10 guage wire. I have a 50 Gal drum that I pour everything into and it gets disposed of once a month.

Is there less of a concern of chromium issues when using sodium hydroxide? If so, I bought a 2 lb. container that I will use instead.

I also have 100 ft. of stainless wire that I could use, but I've noticed that it gets really hot, so maybe I will need to heatshrink a few pieces together until it is as thick as 10 guage wire.

]]> By: BigFireDave http://www.hhogasstation.com/new-6-cup-hho-fuel-cell-flip-cup/169/#comment-492 BigFireDave Fri, 09 Jan 2009 10:12:02 +0000 http://www.hhogasstation.com/new-6-cup-hho-fuel-cell-flip-cup/169/#comment-492 I forgot to mention, now that you are using KOH and most other electrolites, the steam can damage the internal components of your engine. You need to keep the steam down, hydrogen is clear and so is oxygen. Even after the bubbler it can be sneaking through. Many people in the field are trying to design dryers to take all vapor out of the gas before the engine inake. Water vapor is not TOO hazardous for an engine, even helps performance but electrolite vapor is dangerous to the engine. I forgot to mention, now that you are using KOH and most other electrolites, the steam can damage the internal components of your engine. You need to keep the steam down, hydrogen is clear and so is oxygen. Even after the bubbler it can be sneaking through. Many people in the field are trying to design dryers to take all vapor out of the gas before the engine inake. Water vapor is not TOO hazardous for an engine, even helps performance but electrolite vapor is dangerous to the engine.

]]> By: BigFireDave http://www.hhogasstation.com/new-6-cup-hho-fuel-cell-flip-cup/169/#comment-493 BigFireDave Fri, 09 Jan 2009 10:12:02 +0000 http://www.hhogasstation.com/new-6-cup-hho-fuel-cell-flip-cup/169/#comment-493 Looks good so far. I do have some concerns. The wire and connectors have already been mentioned. I am experimenting with stainless wire (welding wire) and silver soldering it to plates. But also, now that you are using KOH there is MORE problem of chromium6 leaching into electolite. Wear rubber gloves! DONT throw the electolite down the drain or on the lawn. Dispose of as hazardous waste, which it definately is. Hexavailient chromium is dabgerous stuff, be careful. Keep up the good work! Looks good so far. I do have some concerns. The wire and connectors have already been mentioned. I am experimenting with stainless wire (welding wire) and silver soldering it to plates. But also, now that you are using KOH there is MORE problem of chromium6 leaching into electolite. Wear rubber gloves! DONT throw the electolite down the drain or on the lawn. Dispose of as hazardous waste, which it definately is. Hexavailient chromium is dabgerous stuff, be careful. Keep up the good work!

]]> By: HHO4ALL http://www.hhogasstation.com/new-6-cup-hho-fuel-cell-flip-cup/169/#comment-494 HHO4ALL Fri, 09 Jan 2009 10:12:02 +0000 http://www.hhogasstation.com/new-6-cup-hho-fuel-cell-flip-cup/169/#comment-494 I agree, the world should have this technology and every car should have a HHO fuel cell to reduce emissions. I've watched so many videos over the past year, since I started playing around with HHO fuel cells, but I have to admit that I haven't really taken notes when I should have. I guess everyone has to learn the basics the hard way. Even though the cups are not 316L Stainless Steel, they don't cost much and they work well, so that is why I am using cups for my experiments. I agree, the world should have this technology and every car should have a HHO fuel cell to reduce emissions.

I've watched so many videos over the past year, since I started playing around with HHO fuel cells, but I have to admit that I haven't really taken notes when I should have. I guess everyone has to learn the basics the hard way.

Even though the cups are not 316L Stainless Steel, they don't cost much and they work well, so that is why I am using cups for my experiments.

]]> By: insAneTunA http://www.hhogasstation.com/new-6-cup-hho-fuel-cell-flip-cup/169/#comment-495 insAneTunA Fri, 09 Jan 2009 10:12:02 +0000 http://www.hhogasstation.com/new-6-cup-hho-fuel-cell-flip-cup/169/#comment-495 your welcome, if we all work together we can make this world a lot better. I am not the most experienced dude on YouTube but I have seen so many videos that I can tell you what videos to watch for most solutions to problems that occur when you experiment with HHO, and forgive me my bad English I am dutch lol your welcome, if we all work together we can make this world a lot better. I am not the most experienced dude on YouTube but I have seen so many videos that I can tell you what videos to watch for most solutions to problems that occur when you experiment with HHO, and forgive me my bad English I am dutch lol

]]> By: insAneTunA http://www.hhogasstation.com/new-6-cup-hho-fuel-cell-flip-cup/169/#comment-496 insAneTunA Fri, 09 Jan 2009 10:12:02 +0000 http://www.hhogasstation.com/new-6-cup-hho-fuel-cell-flip-cup/169/#comment-496 I understand what you mean, I was thinking the same in the beginning after I realised that some folks are experimenting for more then 2 years. Then I started to study some more so I could pick it up from there. It saved me a lot of money :-) Watch out with that vapor because it can be harmful to your engine if there is some chemical left in the vapor. It can eat your piston and valves away because of the chemical reaction with the aluminum. I understand what you mean,

I was thinking the same in the beginning after I realised that some folks are experimenting for more then 2 years. Then I started to study some more so I could pick it up from there. It saved me a lot of money :-) Watch out with that vapor because it can be harmful to your engine if there is some chemical left in the vapor. It can eat your piston and valves away because of the chemical reaction with the aluminum.

]]> By: HHO4ALL http://www.hhogasstation.com/new-6-cup-hho-fuel-cell-flip-cup/169/#comment-497 HHO4ALL Fri, 09 Jan 2009 10:12:02 +0000 http://www.hhogasstation.com/new-6-cup-hho-fuel-cell-flip-cup/169/#comment-497 Thank you for taking the time to explain this. I appreciate your input, because most people just watch the videos and then never leave any constructive criticism. Thank you for taking the time to explain this. I appreciate your input, because most people just watch the videos and then never leave any constructive criticism.

]]> By: HHO4ALL http://www.hhogasstation.com/new-6-cup-hho-fuel-cell-flip-cup/169/#comment-498 HHO4ALL Fri, 09 Jan 2009 10:12:02 +0000 http://www.hhogasstation.com/new-6-cup-hho-fuel-cell-flip-cup/169/#comment-498 Thank you for the heads up on the copper wire, I was aware that I should not use connectors that would corrode, but was not clear on why this was so. I am currently designing a dry cell model of my design that will be able to have additional cells added in series. This way you can easily connect additional cells if necessary to accommodate larger vehicles. My main goal is to come up with a solution that is small and compact, but has output similar to larger units. Thank you for the heads up on the copper wire, I was aware that I should not use connectors that would corrode, but was not clear on why this was so.

I am currently designing a dry cell model of my design that will be able to have additional cells added in series. This way you can easily connect additional cells if necessary to accommodate larger vehicles.

My main goal is to come up with a solution that is small and compact, but has output similar to larger units.

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